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[poll] PollPoll Question: Does I.C.E. do enough to support the superchexx fan base?
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Yes, it is not their responsibility. [***] (1 vote, 8.3%)
No, they should be doing more. [***] (1 vote, 8.3%)
Yes, but they should sponsor the natl tournament.[ ] (0 votes, 0%)
No, they should set up tournaments and leagues[******************************] (9 votes, 75%)
Would like more support, but don't need it.[ ] (0 votes, 0%)
It is the players responsability[***] (1 vote, 8.3%)
We all take chexx way too seriously.[ ] (0 votes, 0%)

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« Thread Started on May 2, 2005, 2:52pm »

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« Reply #1 on May 2, 2005, 3:35pm »

I have spoken to ICE and complained to them that they do not do enough even locally ( I live 20 minutes from them ). They explained that they are just too busy. They just have too much on their plate as it is. Which is in my opinion is the wrong thing to do. ICE would grow their business if they would sponsor events. Get more players involved in bubble - sell more units. It's as simple as that!
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« Reply #2 on May 3, 2005, 8:40am »

I totally agree with Littlepeople ! I mean what the heck!!! What kind of marketing and business planning people are employed over there? We're not even asking for full on sponsorships etc. , I mean many of us are already trying to do things on our own. They could atleast offer some minor assistance/sponsorship etc. You know, sort of help us help them. The more people play this game the more get hooked. I personally have never met someone who has played this and not enjoyed it. And I've had tournament and intro play with everyone from 5 yrs olds to (literally) 80 yr olds. Couples, teenagers, church groups etc.
Anyway, it would seem to me that ICE is probably their own biggest obstacle to bigger success. (I mean who the heck turns the back on a proven commodity, DAH!!!!)
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« Reply #3 on May 6, 2005, 10:06am »

I have always thought this, good to hear others feel the same way. It wasn't so bad when budlight was the big sponsor, but when they dropped the promotion (bad move on their part) ICE should have taken over and kept things going. Superchexx was getting national advertising and bubble hockey interest was more than likely at an all time high, and ICE had no follow up plan, they just let things fizzle out. It would take a lot of investment on their part to set up a nation wide league, but I think they should at least be sponsoring a national tournament. Hopefully someone at ICE is reading our message board and will take some of these suggestions to heart.

Lets hear from some other guys out there.
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« Reply #4 on May 6, 2005, 11:23am »

The big focus at ICE seems to be their "coin pushers" and "claw" games. If you check out their website you'll see the company is alot more than Super Chexx. It really surprised me.

It does seem that they are forgetting there roots a little bit. I was there a couple weeks ago and I asked about buying a nice CHEXX poster they had on the wall. They were amazed and couldn't understand what I would want it for. I said it would look good at tournaments or even on a gameroom wall. I thought they might throw one in for free, you know, just for being interested. But they couldn't because they only made a couple of them.

I honestly think ICE feels the CHEXX market is a very small niche of dedicated players - who would be there whether or not they spend money on marketing, etc. Therefore it's not worth their effort.

It does make you wonder though. They hire many of their employees from Temp agencies. Couldn't they request a Temp that loves the game, and make him a national tournament director/Point of Contact. He could provide promotional materials, radio interviews, etc. Heck, the guys that started this site are pretty much doing that in their own regions right now - without ICE backing. Imagine what a guy up at ICE could do. Throw in some NHL assistance, during the NHL PR blitz when hockey start's back up, and you got yourself the start of something big.

Who wouldn't want to be that guy at ICE looking over a national map with posted names of POCs in almost every state - Tony in Utah, Sully in Mass, Wildfan in Minn, etc.

- You could sit around calling these guys to arrange tourneys and promotions, sending out tourney assistance packages.

- Hell you might even be able to design a better looking Chexx T-shirt or even a line of clothing with SUPERCHEXX or the bubble embroidered on them.

- Take in beat up games, refurbish them and offer them at discounted prices to home gameroom owners.

I know there's many more ideas, that people alot smarter than me, could come up with.

Make it happen ICE!
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« Reply #5 on May 6, 2005, 11:40pm »

Well put B-ranger, sounds like you are just the man for the job.
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« Reply #6 on May 9, 2005, 10:44am »

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I don't think that it's the responsibility of ICE to do anything more than make the games, supply parts and tech. support. The game has been around for 20 + years and it's legacy and popularity (amongst our crowd) speaks for itself. Maybe ICE is missing out on a chance to make extra $$ and increase the games popularity however the have no responsibility to push the game anymore than they already do. They make many other games (as was already stated above) and I am guessing that they don't want to put all of their eggs in one basket.
It would be great if they pushed the marketing for CHEXX because it would make our life a whole lot easier but it's not their job to do it so, I guess it's up to us.
I know that the Stiga (and similar type table hockey games) have been around MUCH longer than CHEXX and the only tournaments I've ever seen for those games were organized by the loyal fans (like we do for CHEXX) not the maker of the game. Maybe I'm wrong about that but the bottom line is that they are not required to do anymore than they already do...NOW, do I think they are missing the boat on a great opportunity...YES I DO !. Maybe someone needs to approach them about this, it's possible they never gave it a thought.
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« Reply #7 on May 10, 2005, 2:18pm »

Face it ICE will do little or nothing to promote bubble. They just don't have the man power to do it.

If you want tournaments you need to bug your local beer distributor. That's what I do. They eventually listen and start having competitions. Bug the local bars who have had bubble in the past. I even sent e-mails to our local sports radio WGR55.

Last month Try-it and a local bar gave away a trip to Vegas and Tornoto. I hear there is one coming up for a trip to NY.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Get out there and make something happen.

The next thing I would like to pursue is to get an old Chexx game and make the base more portable. Fold up legs without the coin slot. This would allow the game to be taken to different bars, friends houses, parties, what ever.

Make you own tournament. People love the game... if they can find one. Bring the mountain to Mohamad.

Make it happen my fellow Bubble boys. Only our imaginations are holding us back!
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« Reply #8 on Mar 24, 2009, 5:47pm »

I think ICE charges too much for a Super Chexx. I think one of the Biggest obstacles is the Price for most people. A Super Chexx in Calgary,AB is 3450.00 Brand New. But thats also due to a crappy exchange rate. It looks around 3000 in US for a Brand New. Thats a lot for one game. Im not sure how much they make off each game. Parts are really expensive. If they dropped the price a 500 to 1000 per game, more games would be purchased. A Carrom table in Canada average 1000 to 1500.00 a Shelti Thunderdome are 2000 Cad. It just seems a Super Chexx is not even close in price to Other Models. Like 1500 more.
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« Reply #9 on Jul 18, 2009, 10:33am »

hi guys, i sold my table 6 mo nths ago but i regularly check in to see what's going on in the bubble community. i have an intresting story for you guys.

ice does indeed make much more then just the super chexx game and the super chexx represents only a small fraction of its profit margin. My buddy who runs a succesful metal shop here in montreal also owns a table and played chexx with me when we were just kids.

his company makes metal parts for things like treadmils, work out equipement and so on. he contacted ice to know if they would be interested in selling the rights to chexx brand. Much to his suprise they were very intrested and set up a meeting. When he told me about this he asked me to come up with some ideas on a new chexx using some of the modifications i had done to my table such as metal nets with wire mesh, goal lights, player benches, amovable goalie glove hand ect....just ideas so i actually got on the pc and created my version of a new super chexx ?( aguy can dream). long story short he met with chexx and the brand is very much for sale however given the numbers it was not a good buy.

the sales of these machines worldwide is not staggering. My freind left his card and maybe someday they will call. As for them promoting they actually do promote the game as there is a team of2 that works exclusively on making the siily cartoon videos for chexx lol. anyhow that my 2 cents enjoy
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« Reply #10 on Jul 21, 2009, 7:29am »

ICE makes a number of games, just go to a chuckie cheese and look around for the logo. A lot of ticket givers.

But you are right, they need to update the bubble. Some new features.....something.


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« Reply #11 on Nov 9, 2009, 12:05am »

Hello everyone, my opinion is ice doesn't do anything at all. Some people don't think they should do anything, which is fine, but if i'm a buisness owner of anything i would want to push my product as much as possible. Whats it going to cost to set up a turnny? Make a few trophys and t-shirts and posters? It can't be that much and it would be a tax right off anyways. Heck if they could get 1 new person hooked on super chexx (way more addictive than crack) and they bought a new game that might be worth their costs
There is nothing wrong with us owners getting involved to help make it bigger and better, for our own benefit of playing against different players, all good things usually start at the grass roots level. But by making efforts to make super chexx a more popular commodity which makes ICE more wealthy without lifting a finger or upgrading thier game isn't right either (i mean really! how hard would it be to put a ramp on the rightside and have all matching stick lengths).
Mabey if everyone bombarded ICE with emails it might change their attitude, after all the squeaky wheel gets the oil!!!!
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